Smogon tier list gen 9 ) Explore strategies and information for using various Pokémon in the National Dex format for the SS game version on Smogon University. in particular its defensive utility being a fairy type that is not weak to ground, and also being a stone edge resist not weak to ground. The moderators of this forum are Lily, vivalospride, Estarossa, Monky25, Mossy Sandwich, and ThatOneApple. Pokémon in this tier are able to OHKO or 2HKO a reasonable portion of opponents but are matchup-based enough to need some item reliance to assist in sweeping some opponents. Thread Rules - Post intelligently. The tiers are ordered, but tier 5 specifically is pretty loosely ordered because I stopped caring by then. Banded Double-Edge hits quite hard. For the record, it has been #1 usage every single month since it dropped like 5 months ago, this is a However, S-tier is generally reserved for mons that fit on a wide range of teams and have no real downside to using, and I don't believe that is true of Weavile. Gen 9 Battle Factory is a format in which you and your opponent battle in a randomly selected Smogon official tier's setting, with randomly generated teams of Pokemon and sets both viable and regularly used in said tier. 5, which is equivalent to the base power of those moves being halved (e. - Differences between BH and standard tiers - Imposter in Balanced Hackmons (Article) - Teambuilding Guide - Dealing with Cheese: Gen 9 Edition - Move Selection (Gen 8) - Minor EV Optimizations - Wallbreaking Guide Doubles OU | SM | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Art by imas Welcome to the SS National Dex Anything Goes Viability Ranking. tinkaton tier is a joke tier, my actual ranking is Tier 5 behind Baxcalibur So I ranked every viable Pokémon in SV DOU. For more reliable speed control I think T-wave is actually used more often than Destiny Bond too. Gen 1 and Gen 6 approved by phantom, art by Datsplashtho SS RU Speed Tiers This thread is used to keep a comprehensive list of the Speed stats of all relevant Pokemon within the SS RU metagame, categorized by the Speed stats on their various sets. S-tier is ordered, A, B, and C tier is roughly ordered, D tier is just shitmons i threw in there. these didnt rly I have decided to take the discussion of the what would be current decisions on X Items and their use within in-game tier lists and create a thread here. Decent most games: decent in this context means "okay". Aug 24, 2013 DPP OU Rankings List V2 (Subject to change) S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon who can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame with little support, and Pokemon who can support other Pokemon with very little opportunity cost ("free turns"). also it is mostly a hyper offense mon. Controversial Gen 9 still isn't the most power creep generation! Let's fix that immediately!!! Reply reply more replies. NeverUsed | SS | Smogon Strategy Pokedex - Smogon University Loading approved by Yoshiblaze Servus and welcome to Ubermons for Generation 9! In this Pet Mod, we will adjust Ubers and banned aspects for National Dex OU play. If you're planning to get into ranked battles but don't know which Pokemon to pick, this list will get you started in the right direction. Discover strategies and details for competitive Pokemon gaming in the PU format with the Smogon Strategy Pokedex. Ndm (the 2nd best mon in the tier) Create a ranking for Smogon Gen 9 OU [OU + SPL + WCup 2023 + HOME] 1. There is so much wrong in this tier list I don't even know where to start. Get ready folks - Christmas is coming to town and there's a lot within this sack to talk about. In this thread, we as a community will be ranking every single usable Pokemon into "tiers. For all of the tier mains, however, everyone can remember That One Game, where they lost because Jigglypuff proc'd Cute Charm on your win condition. g. However, in my testing I've found both of them to be somewhat underwhelming in comparison to how they were last gen, especially Lugia. This thing actually has pretty damn good defensive utility, checking Koraidon, Zacian, Dusk Mane, Ho-Oh, Groundceus, Kyogre, Calyrex-Ice, and Kingambit Gen 9 Random Battle x CAP: Gen 9 random battle has been invaded by Smogon's own CAP pokemon! For this format, every team will generate with at least one CAP pokemon, with level and moveset adjusted to fit in the gen 9 metagame. You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are viable in OU and what tier they should OverUsed | SS | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Here's our second viability rankings thread to represent the post-home metagame. magic9mushroom. Guides Home RNG Mechanics Battling Guides The goal of this in-game tier list is to recommend a select group of Pokémon for an efficient run-through Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules. And now PU has gotten its big drop from DLC2, so next month we start with the regular 3-month shift schedule, which essentially means only monthly quick drops until July 1st. New. Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent their opponent's Pokémon from fainting from PP depletion and Rayquaza is frail by ubers standards, is stopped by many tier staples in the tier and cannot find many opportunities to set up, I'd say this thing is B tier. As for additions, I would definitely add Torment to S tier to round out the forced-Struggle moves, though it's countered by non-megas through Dynamax. 1; 2; 3 Stats for this shift are based on July, August, and September usage weighted equally, with a 4. more replies. The goal is to make every single ban, viable and healthy part of the metagame. With Pokémon Scarlet and Violet being out for a little over a month at this point and Smogon's tiers starting to settle, this generation is surely shaping up to be an interesting one! While we wait for analyses to come out, The Flying Press gathered important players in their respective tiers to give us a rundown of what we can expect from Generation 9! Psychic as a secondary type isn't really good vs most mon and the neutral damage from fighting doesn't add much since we have Goldengo and Corviknight in the meta. Swampert is on 6 of the 9 saaample teams and brings a tremendous amount of utility to any non-HO team. : mitana showed me the light. A tier without wallbreakers is one where balanced and defensive teams dominate and offensive teams struggle to keep up the pace. This is a list of the seventy-two viable Pokemon in SV Ubers, sorted top-to-bottom from most Day 1 of insisting that Bellibolt with its slow speed with access to volt switch, and decent bulk with access to static and slack off, and decent SpA with access to parabolic charge and chilling water gives it OU viability and is probably one of 161 votes, 120 comments. Even if you have played, but only a couple games, you may not have had a negative experience. It's no secret that Knock Off is possibly the best move in DNU, and Zigalar is a fearsome user of it. Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to UU losing Iron Treads is the single biggest change of the whole generation for the tier. It is THE ultimate cleaner in this tier in my opinion; if you haven't tried it out, you're missing out. Forums. The general idea of the topic is to rank each AG Pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. which basically has no counters at all and is the most potent wincon in this TIER SHIFT Banner by me, Gen 8 thread by G-Luke "> G-Luke Have you ever wanted to shine a light into the depths of Smogon's tiering system, breathing new life in to oft-forgotten low tier dwellers, and allowing them to [Gen 9] Free-For-All has a number of distinct mechanics that work differently from either singles or doubles: Moves that target all adjacent foes (colloquially known as "spread moves") have their base power multiplied by x0. This is still a work in progress, I'll add more mons as soon as i can. 52% rise/drop cutoff. yeah bdsp seems boring compared with the other tiers tbh . PU | SS | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Introduction to the unofficial ADV RU: A recent development based off of the large pool of rarely used Pokémon and viability ranking of ADV UU, Pokémon ranked C+ and lower end up here, as well as all the NU legal Pokémon. What's new Featured content New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Approved by the OU mod team, formerly hosted by Mada Welcome to the OU Speed tiers! The idea of the thread is to provide an easily-accessible list of all the OU-viable (and the majority of the newly released) Pokemon by their speed stat. A-tier mons are always a good sight for any team and either are consistent sweepers or defensive mons that always will be useful. Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, There will always be non OU mons that are surprisingly splashable and potent, and I don't think that lower tiers The pokemon in this tier has really high potential, but they can definetly be stopped using various pokemon and methods. We have a functional teambuilder on the Petmods Dragon Heaven server!We're under the Gen 9 Solomods category. All general tournament rules and guidelines apply. Outdated and older threads from the Gen 9 OU forum will be stored here. - Be civil when debating other users. 3. Ruleset and Banlist Species Clause: Players cannot have more than one Pokémon with any National Pokédex number. After Smogon removed the National Dex AG ladder from their PS server, Clodsire is Quagsire but for special defense. it's the closest thing we have to Fini in gen 9, with a very good special stats, a pivot move, strong stabs, and very nice resistances Welcome to the Do Not Use Fall Seasonal! Do Not Use is a tier that features only the weakest of the weak Pokemon in a National Dex format (more details below). The Agility set is my new favorite set in the entire tier. Some Pokemon drop multiple tiers because they were there prior to rising in a previous tier shift, if said rise did not happen immediately following a game/DLC release. Fire/Steel typing allows Heatran to provide great counterplay vs traditional matchups such as Lele, while This is our tier list for the best Pokemon for competitive battles in Regulation G of Pokemon Scarlet and Violet (SV) and The Teal Mask DLC. Welcome to Doubles Ubers!Like all official Smogon tiers, Doubles Ubers is restricted to Pokemon that are currently obtainable in Scarlet and Violet. Stats for this month are based solely on usage from March, with a 4. Welcome to the official SM OU Viability Rankings thread. For those who haven't played the tier, this may seem like a bizarre choice for tiering action. C -> UR, nobody uses this. . Tier 0: Fastest to 500 Stats for this shift are based on April, May, and June usage weighted equally, with a 4. Home. Combined usage for OU (1695 stats) + It appears that many fans are disappointed by the removal of the Gen 9 National Dex AG ladder on the main Showdown server, so a group of dedicated fans of the tier have created an alternate Showdown server + a Discord server for National Dex AG. Since this is a tier list for the entire metagame, everything is lumped together. SS Tier Imprison Perish Song Welcome to Smogon! Dark Void and Nature's Madness are uncallable in Gen 8. " You're encouraged to post your thoughts and opinions on the various Pokemon that are usable in SM OU and what tier they should fall under. Uber | SM | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Like gen 9 has a lot of banned mons, but this post is specifically talking about the sheer amount of mons that were introduced and are sticking in OU still. The possible tier options currently are Ubers, OU, UU, RU, NU, and PU. Top. 52% cutoff of the National Dex OU ladder or is not banned to UUBL is allowed in the tier. Doubles Ubers is a 6v6 doubles format with no Pokemon banned. Welcome to Smogon! Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, That's why the tier list goes absorbers>sleepers>anti-leads, because they force the best trades in that order without wasting turns switching unnecessarily. Jun (Ranked B+) is really underrated right now despite not being an OU pokemon historically. Read on to find out which Pokemon are trainers using in online play. Open comment sort options. I think gen 8 is up there in terms of that, as well as having 3 mons that got banned from OU due to either an insane move or ability(s. Thanks zeefable for helping me out with lower tiers Tier 0: from 300 to beyond 500 The general idea of the topic is to rank each OU Pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. Great Tier: The best Pokemon in the tier. Articles. Kind of, but let's look at a comparison: Typing: Mon Quagsire Clodsire Weaknesses Grass Quagsire is much better off in this department, only having a weakness to grass, an The OverUsed (OU) format in Smogon Strategy Pokedex for Generation 7 provides detailed strategies and movesets for competitive Pokémon battles. So for starters we need to discuss why this thread exists. In this thread, we, as a community, will be ranking every single justifiably usable Pokemon into "tiers" ranking their viability in the metagame. The OverUsed (OU) format in Smogon Strategy Pokedex for Generation 7 provides detailed strategies and movesets for competitive Pokémon battles. The new OU list comes out in 15 days (or so), and that's just about when we'll actually be able to test the new stuff. This tour is being hosted by yours truly and features a $25 prize pool! Winner takes all. approved by Alexender :clodsire::skeledirge:Generation 9 Free-For-All:Blissey::Garganacl: Playable Now! Premise [Gen 9] Free-For-All is a four-player format where all players are put against each other in one battle; the last player with Pokemon remaining wins. Check out our other Pokémon tier list templates and the most recent user submitted Pokémon tier lists. Smogon » In-Game » Guides » Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald In-Game Tiers. Arceus water is not great, it provides a super free switch into miraidon a lot and ice beam will limit its versatility, it has its merits but its ultimately not a tier but a-. Im top 25 in gen 9 rands and most of his list isnt even bad analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. Explore the NeverUsed (NU) tier in Smogon Strategy Pokedex, featuring viable Pokemon and strategies for competitive play. It's time for a new gen, and with it some crazy new Pokemon to use (including former NatDex AG Pokemon and Pokemon that never fell to NatDex UU at all during Gen 8)! (approved for posting by DHR-107) Welcome to the Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon in-game tier list! The goal of this list is to tier every Pokemon available in USUM under one of the tiers, ranging from S-tier, the highest one, and F Welcome to the fourth (and hopefully final) viability list of our generation, the DLC 2 viability list! With the meta still being very new, these are preliminary rankings where the VR team ranks all the viable Pokemon in the meta into 4 ranks of High, Good, Medium, and Low to reflect their standing in the current metagame. The Smogon Strategy Pokedex provides comprehensive information and strategies for competitive Pokémon battling. This thread will focus on organising competitive, viable Pokémon into ranks, varying on how good they are within the metagame. Best. Why would Delibird have more potential over Glaceon, which actually gained Calm Mind this generation, but I don't know if it can threaten the entire tier after a single CM, because +1 STAB Ice Beam coming off of something with base 130 SpA sounds like something that very few can switch into (AV Thick Fat Hariyama might be a roadblock though) The general idea of the topic is to rank each Pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. Otherwise, it mirrors most clauses from Doubles OU, such as Species Clause and Evasion Clause (notably, Gravity Sleep clause is not present). Smogon Tier Shifts for October Smogon News Share Add a Comment. You will see these commonly when playing games, and they will Permission received from DHR to post this, it might be moved to OI general later tho So I saw this topic earlier which got locked after pointing the original poster to the IGTL section of the forum, which makes sense as the S and S-: The best of the best Pokemon, being extremely splashable and versatile, having high consistency, and shaping the tier’s development. Bronzong is a really niche mon and doesn't deserve to be higher/same tier than Forretress/Orthworm, that is why I think it should be lower in the tier list. There won't be any segregation between offense, defense, and supportive presences in the metagame within this thread. Forums Rather than following conventional rankings of A, B, and C, Pokemon for the simple Viability List are grouped into 4 categories, shown down below. Its incredible speed tier access to the incredibly valuable STAB Knock Off and Facade leave it a great anti-offense mon that gets plenty of action vs. Earthquake becomes 50 Power rather than 100). iron valiant: this is the most interesting addition to the tier in gen 9 and while it certainly looks very strong it feels very contributing to the overall health of the metagame as long as it doesnt prove to be j completely broken. Avalugg-Hisui Changelog 010323 - Initial VR 020323 - Espeon is removed after it rose to UU in the tier shift. Stats for this month are based solely on July usage, with a 4. This is a Tier List for August 2023 before the DLC update, made by me and my friends, all above 1800 on the ladder I’ll give an USUM Ubers answer. Hairoll. For example, Persian is in this tier because it will do consistently okay damage every game it is in. Compared to the current two S-tier mons, Weavile is not nearly as splashable. PU | SM | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Hello everyone! This is Series 9's Speed tiers thread, this is a resource to provide an easily-accessible list of all the currently viable options in the metagame, from Regieleki to Shuckle. Want to contribute? Drop it here on Stunfisk! 1v1 | SS | Smogon Strategy Pokedex - Smogon University Loading Zigalar is straight up the best cleaner in the tier. Dex. Wallbreakers are generally very influential on the way people build teams, and many teambuilders go to great lengths in order not to be weak to them. Also the home of Pokemon who can easily perform multiple roles effectively, increasing their versatility and unpredictability. C-Tier: Reserved for Pokémon whose efficiency in terms of completing the game is considered to be moderately high. This is a combined concept of Post Index: #2: Gen 9 Random Battle/Gen 9 Random Doubles Battle - How does Random Battles work exactly? Code explanation post #2: Gen 9 Random Battle/Gen 9 Random Doubles Battle - Roles and what they do #3: Other Random Battles formats - System differences #4: Set Development Policy, Principles Like gen 9 has a lot of banned mons, but this post is specifically talking about the sheer amount of mons that were introduced and are sticking in OU still. It has one of the highest winrate in ZUPL with 71% for 7 uses, and it is easy to understand why. One-liners saying things like "X should be Y rank" without context or supporting evidence are likely to be disregarded or deleted. Create a Smogon Gen 9 OU [OU + SPL + WCup 2023 + HOME] Tier List tier list. balance builds. 2. S- Pokemon are Pokemon that are a step above the rest of the A+ Pokemon but may not be as centralizing or potent as another S tier. Includes new gen 9 mons and PLA mons added to main series games. Heatran to A+/S-Heatran is still absurdly strong and with the addition of Tera, it is further bolstered. Reactions: Quoise, 35Q71N and adorluigi. Every Pokémon that is under the 4. Pretty much, getting up hazards is really useful in Ubers this gen since Corvinight and Giratina-O are basically the only defogger in the tier. Edit the label text in each row. Grass Tera allows Heatran to invalidate old counterplay such as Gastrodon, Landorus, and other ground types with its combination of Taunt and Magma Storm. Take a moment to read the Introduction to Smogon for a run-down on everything Smogon, and make sure you take some time to read the global rules. Full stats will be up shortly. If you're planning to get into ranked battles but don't know which Pokemon to Welcome to Smogon! in the most current cartridge. It is the most reliable pivot in the tier, outspeeding close to everything in the tier and its access to a fast Encore lets it keep in check a ton of threats, which is extremely valuable in Tera metagames. Their dominance has a notable effect on teambuilding and the dynamics of the tier. Conceptually, BH is defined as a sandbox tier where one can use Pokemon to their fullest potential with normal restrictions being caly-s is stupid busted. Click We have added some Pokemon to the Viability List that I initially missed! Old generation Pokemon: Alomomola; Chansey; Gengar; Hawlucha; New generation Pokemon: Ranking of all new mons to main series games. HGSS pretty much lines up exactly with the new tier list and the new OU list, and I think it's pretty silly to just delay things and throw everything off for what few changes there are to the metagame. Ground is a very solid offensive type in general, and bulky cm sets blow up pdon (the best mon in the tier) with judgment. S-tier mons often carry and are always a threat regardless of the opponents team. Pokémon that were part of a Slate are going to be changed Plan is for this to expand over time as Gen 9 versions of the guides / new suggestions for guides begin appearing. Tournament Rules. Froslass is also a really quick taunt user and icy wind can help for some sort of speed control in a pinch. Credits to Lily for the descriptions of these rankings from last generation's viability lists. The general idea of the topic is to rank each OU Pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order. This post is mostly a collection of nominations for the Viability Rankings, but the tier list is a pretty nice visual. Here you will find resources such as Viability Rankings, Sample Teams, Set Compendium, Speed Tiers and the discussion about the EDIT: Two Pokemon that I have omitted from the list have caused some concern with some smogon members, those two being Lugia and Deoxys-D, which were previously Uber last gen. You are encouraged to post thoughts on where each Pokémon should be ranked; however, there This is a list of all the viable Pokemon in SV Ubers, sorted top-to-bottom from most to least viable, not ordered within tiers. Barraskewda, Floatzel, Kilowattrel, and Tauros-Paldea-Aqua are temporarily added to the "New Drop" section after they dropped from UU in the tier shift. Drag the images into the order you would like. The OverUsed (OU) section of the Smogon Strategy Pokedex provides detailed information on competitive Pokémon strategies in the Scarlet and Violet games. Gen 9 UU Archive. This is my tier list! The final and ultimate list. ) Marshadow already hurt Mega Gengar's viability in generation 7 due to the former literally being able to OHKO the latter with a life orb shadow sneak, and now Zacian-C hurts its viability even more due to it being able to just outspeed it and get the OHKO as well. Speed creeping is advised against here, rather, if you seek to Almost Any Ability | SS | Smogon Strategy Pokedex Loading Wallbreakers are a very important aspect of any singles metagame. Sort by: Best. This is our tier list for the best Pokemon for competitive battles in Regulation G of Pokemon Scarlet and Violet (SV) and The Teal Mask DLC. rat fkk pndxk wzvgi alw gfyafu jublvnb pbu unbwrh bke